Minutes of Council Meetings

Minutes of the Council Meeting of the Ontario College of Teachers held on September 30 — October 1, 2004 in the Council Chambers, 6th Floor, 121 Bloor Street East, Toronto

Table of Contents

1. Call to Order/Welcome

2. Agenda

3. Minutes

4. New Business

5. Registrar’s Report

6. Committee Reports

7. Correspondence

8. New Business (Continued)

9. Notices of Motion

10. Business Arising

11. Next Regular Meeting

12. Adjournment

Session I:

Thursday, September 30, 2004

Present: Paul Brazeau, Donald Cattani, Ernie Checkeris, Janet Cornwall, Ted Coulson, Patrick Daly, Suzanne De Froy, Rosemary Fontaine, Gordon Hough, Nancy Hutcheson (Vice-Chair), Martin Kings, Marilyn A. Laframboise (Chair), Anne Marie Levesque, Gail Lilley, Bill Matheson, Elayne McDermid, Karen Mitchell, Harry Mulvale (until 4:45 p.m.), Iain Munro, Janet Ouellette, Elizabeth Papadopoulos, Jennifer Pitt, Patrick Slack, Rick Victor, Anne Vinet-Roy, Hilda Watkins (from 2:05 p.m.), Don Watson, Lila Mae (Lou) Watson, W. Douglas Wilson (Registrar)

Regrets: Normand Fortin

Presiding Officers: George Merrett, Douglas McCarthy

Guests: L. Thomas Forbes (McCarthy Tétrault)

Staff: Margaret Aubé, Kim Bauer, Peter Brown (from 1:00), Rosemary Gannon, Myrtle Herzenberg, Richard Lewko, Brian McGowan, Charlie Morrison, Lynda Palazzi, Katherin Platt

1. Call to Order/Welcome

The Presiding Officer, Douglas McCarthy, called the meeting to order at 9:05 a.m. and welcomed all present.

The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, requested a minute’s silence be observed for the victims of Beslan, Russia.

The Chair welcomed new Council members: Anne Marie Levesque, Gail Lilley, Bill Matheson and Don Watson.

It was noted that Steering was comprised of Nancy Hutcheson and Patrick Daly.

2. Agenda (GC20040930-110)

It was moved by Steering, and

CARRIED,

That the Agenda for the September 30-October 1, 2004 Council meeting be approved.

3. Minutes

3.1 Meeting, June 4, 2004 (GC20040930-111)

It was noted that the Administrator of the Year award the Registrar had received had been presented by Niagara University.

It was moved by Steering, and

CARRIED,

That the Minutes of the June 4, 2004 Council Meeting be approved as corrected.

4. New Business

4.1 2004 State of the Teaching Profession Survey Presentation (GC20040930-156, -157, -158C) Timed Item — 9:15 a.m.

The Chair introduced Conrad Winn, President and CEO of COMPAS Inc. who made a PowerPoint presentation on the statistical and substantive analysis of the survey. A lengthy question and answer session followed the PowerPoint presentation.

The following documents were distributed to Council Members:

• 2004 Annual State of the Teaching Profession Survey for the Ontario College of Teachers — A COMPAS Special Report on Teacher and Public Perceptions (GC20040930-156)
• 2004 Annual State of the Teaching Profession Survey for the Ontario College of Teachers — A COMPAS Special Report on Teacher and Public Perceptions — Part 2: The Benefits and Drawbacks of Mixed Ability Classrooms (GC20040930-157)
• 2004 Annual State of the Teaching Profession Survey for the Ontario College of Teachers — A COMPAS Special Report on Teacher Perceptions on College Governance (GC20040930-158C)

It was requested that a demographic cross tabulation be provided to Council that identified the number of members surveyed by system and position. The Interview Schedule was also shared with Council members.

Nancy Hutcheson, Vice-Chair, thanked Conrad Winn for his presentation.

5. Registrar’s Report (GC20040930-118, 146)

George Merrett assumed the position of Presiding Officer.

The Registrar’s Report was received. The Registrar, W. Douglas Wilson, spoke to the report and answered questions.

A copy of a schematic document entitled Teacher Qualification Review — Components and Timelines (GC20040930-146) was distributed to Council members.

6. Committee Reports

6.1 Executive/Chair’s Report (GC20040930-119)

The report of the Executive Committee/Chair was received. The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, spoke to the report and answered questions.

It was moved by Steering, and

CARRIED,

That Council approve providing a set of Council meeting materials other than confidential documents to individuals at the time of a Council meeting.

6.2 Human Resources Committee (GC20040930-120, -121, -122)

The reports of the Human Resources Committee were received. The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, spoke to the reports and answered questions.

It was moved by Marilyn Laframboise, Chair, Human Resources Committee, “That Council approve maintaining the following positions in the College’s permanent staffing complement in 2005: Help Desk Specialist, Council and Committees Officer, Senior Communications Officer, Translator, Web Editor, Membership Records Officer and Membership Records Assistant, and that the position of French Language Co-ordinator be added.”

It was moved by Harry Mulvale, seconded by Don Cattani, and

CARRIED,

That Council postpone consideration of the following motion until after discussion of Item 6.3 Finance:

That Council approve maintaining the following positions in the College’s permanent staffing complement in 2005: Help Desk Specialist, Council and Committees Officer, Senior Communications Officer, Translator, Web Editor, Membership Records Officer and Membership Records Assistant, and that the position of French Language Co-ordinator be added.

6.3 Finance Committee (GC20040930-123)

The report of the Finance Committee was received. The Chair, Patrick Daly, spoke to the report and answered questions. He recognized the work done by the Finance Committee, Peter Brown and Richard Lewko during the pre-budget period.

6.3.1 2005 Budget (GC20040930-124, -125, -159)

Patrick Daly gave a PowerPoint presentation on the Ontario College of Teachers 2005 Budget. A handout of the PowerPoint presentation was distributed to Council members. A lengthy question and answer session followed.

It was moved by Patrick Daly, and

CARRIED,

That the Executive Committee recommend that Council approve the 2005 Budget of the Ontario College of Teachers with operating revenues of $24,470,000 and operating expenses of $26,574,000 and capital and deferred charges of $775,000.

Karen Mitchell requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Don Cattani
Ernie Checkeris	Ted Coulson
Janet Cornwall	Suzanne De Froy
Patrick Daly	Rosemary Fontaine
Nancy Hutcheson	Gordon Hough
Martin Kings	Harry Mulvale
Marilyn Laframboise	Elizabeth Papadopoulos
Anne Marie Levesque	Hilda Watkins
Gail Lilley
Bill Matheson
Elayne McDermid
Karen Mitchell
Iain Munro
Janet Ouellette
Jennifer Pitt
Patrick Slack
Rick Victor
Anne Vinet-Roy
Don Watson
Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 20	Against: 8	Absent: 1

6.3.2 2004 Partial Fee Refund (GC20040930-123, Attachment 2)

The report that examined a mechanism for a partial refund to members was received. A question and answer session ensued.

6.3.3 Financial Statements August 2004 (GC20040930-126)

The Ontario College of Teachers Financial Report for the period ended August 31, 2004 was received.

6.3.4 Long-term Facility Planning (GC20040930-123, Attachment 1)

The Facilities Sub-committee Report to the Finance Committee was received. Martin Kings, Chair, Facilities Sub-committee spoke to the report and answered questions.

6.4 Human Resources Committee (GC20040930-120, -121, -122) (Continued)

The following postponed motion was brought before Council:

That Council approve maintaining the following positions in the College’s permanent staffing complement in 2005: Help Desk Specialist, Council and Committees Officer, Senior Communications Officer, Translator, Web Editor, Membership Records Officer and Membership Records Assistant, and that the position of French Language Co-ordinator be added.

A further question and answer session followed.

It was moved by Don Cattani, and

CARRIED,

That the motion to approve the College’s permanent staffing complement in 2005 be split so that the first seven positions be dealt with separately from the French Language Co-ordinator position.

A vote was taken on the first part of the split motion, and it was

CARRIED,

That Council approve maintaining the following positions in the College’s permanent staffing complement in 2005: Help Desk Specialist, Council and Committees Officer, Senior Communications Officer, Translator, Web Editor, Membership Records Officer and Membership Records Assistant.

It was moved by Harry Mulvale, seconded by Rosemary Fontaine, but

LOST,

That Council refer the following motion to the December 9-10, 2004 Council Meeting:

That Council approve the addition of the position French Language Co-ordinator.

It was moved by Elizabeth Papadopoulos and seconded by Patrick Slack, “That the motion be amended by substitution as follows: That Council approve in principle, the addition of the position of French Services Co-ordinator.”

It was agreed to include the word “Language” after the word “French”, as a friendly amendment.

The Presiding Officer explained what “in principle” meant.

Marilyn Laframboise requested that the Presiding Officer rule the above motion out of order because the motion to refer had been defeated and the above motion was an attempt to achieve referral in a different way.

The Presiding Officer stated that a motion in principle was not the same as a motion to refer.

Marilyn Laframboise challenged the ruling of the Presiding Officer.

A vote was taken, and the ruling of the Presiding Officer was not upheld.

The words “in principle” were removed from the motion.

Elizabeth Papadopoulos challenged the ruling of the Presiding Officer and said that the motion was out of order if the words “in principle” were removed.

A vote was taken, and the ruling of the Presiding Officer was upheld.

It was moved by Patrick Daly, seconded by Iain Munro, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the motion as amended, and it was

CARRIED,

That the motion be amended as follows:

That Council approve the addition of the position of French Language Services Co-ordinator.

Don Cattani requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Don Cattani
Ernie Checkeris	Suzanne De Froy
Janet Cornwall	Gordon Hough
Ted Coulson	Karen Mitchell
Patrick Daly	Harry Mulvale
Rosemary Fontaine	Hilda Watkins
Nancy Hutcheson
Martin Kings
Marilyn Laframboise
Anne Marie Levesque
Gail Lilley
Bill Matheson
Elayne McDermid
Iain Munro
Janet Ouellette
Elizabeth Papadopoulos
Jennifer Pitt
Patrick Slack
Rick Victor
Anne Vinet-Roy
Don Watson
Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 22	Against: 6	Absent: 1

A discussion ensued on the job description of French Languages Services Coordinator.

It was moved by Patrick Daly, seconded by Iain Munro, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the second part of the split motion, as amended, and it was

CARRIED,

That Council approve the addition of the position of French Language Services Coordinator.

Don Cattani requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Don Cattani
Ernie Checkeris	Suzanne De Froy
Janet Cornwall	Gordon Hough
Ted Coulson	Harry Mulvale
Patrick Daly	Hilda Watkins
Rosemary Fontaine
Nancy Hutcheson
Martin Kings
Marilyn Laframboise
Anne Marie Levesque
Gail Lilley
Bill Matheson
Elayne McDermid
Karen Mitchell
Iain Munro
Janet Ouellette
Elizabeth Papadopoulos
Jennifer Pitt
Patrick Slack
Rick Victor
Anne Vinet-Roy
Don Watson
Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 23	Against: 5	Absent: 1

It was agreed that a job description would be developed for the position of French Language Services Coordinator and that the Registrar would report back at the December 9-10, Council Meeting.

6.5 Investigation Committee (GC20040930-127, -128)

The reports of the Investigation Committee were received. The Chair, Harry Mulvale, spoke to the reports.

6.6 Discipline Committee (GC20040930-129, -130)

The reports of the Discipline Committee were received. The Vice-Chair, Nancy Hutcheson, spoke to the reports. She reported that Janet Ouellette had recently been appointed to the Discipline Committee.

6.7 Fitness to Practise Committee (GC20040930-131)

The report of the Fitness to Practise Committee was received. The Chair, Lou Watson, spoke to the report.

6.8 Registration Appeals Committee (GC20040930-132, -133)

The reports of the Registration Appeals Committee were received. The Chair, Janet Ouellette, spoke to the reports. She reported that Normand Fortin had been appointed to the Registration Appeals Committee and noted that Bernard Adam’s resignation had created a loss for the Committee.

6.9 Standards of Practice and Education Committee

The Chair, Jennifer Pitt, advised Council members that the next meeting of the Standards of Practice and Education Committee would be held on October 8, 2004.

6.10 Accreditation Committee (GC20040930-134)

The report of the Accreditation Committee was received. The Chair, Rick Victor, spoke to the report and answered questions. He reported that the Accreditation Committee had met the day before, on September 29, 2004.

6.11 Accreditation Appeal Committee (GC20040930-135)

The report of the Accreditation Appeal Committee was received. The Chair, Elizabeth Papadopoulos, spoke to the report.

6.12 Editorial Board (GC20040930-136)

The report of the Editorial Board was received. The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, spoke to the report.

6.13 Election Committee

The Chair, Gord Hough, advised that the election Committee would be meeting in October.

6.14 Nomination Committee (GC20040930-137)

The report of the Nomination Committee was received. The Chair, Nancy Hutcheson, spoke to the report. She advised that the Nomination Committee would be meeting in October and November to review applications and make a recommendation for the vacant French-Language Public Board — elementary or secondary Council position.

6.15 Quality Assurance Committee (GC20040930-138)

The report of the Quality Assurance Committee was received. The Chair, Paul Brazeau, spoke to the report.

7. Correspondence (GC20040930-139, - 140, -141)

The following items of correspondence were received for information:

• Letter to the Minister of Education from the Registrar re the Financial Consequences of the Cancellation of the Professional Learning Program (GC20040930-139)
• Correspondence between the Registrar and the Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario (ETFO) President re Reduction of College Membership Fees (GC20040930-140)
• Letter to the Minister of Education from the Registrar re Letters of Permission (GC20040930-141)

8. New Business (Continued)

8.1 Bylaw Amendment — Section 30 re Witness Signature — Applicant Declaration Form (GC20040930-142, -143)

The Registrar spoke to this item.

It was moved by Steering, and

CARRIED,

That Council approve that section 30.02(i) of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by substitution as follows:

(i) an applicant declaration and criminal record declaration which the applicant shall complete.

8.2 Responsibility for the Ontario Teacher Qualifying Test (GC20040930-144)

Suzanne De Froy noted that more information was required with respect to the Ontario Teacher Qualifying Test.

It was moved by Rick Victor, seconded by Patrick Daly, and

CARRIED,

That Council postpone consideration of the following motion to the December 9-10, 2004 Council Meeting:

That Council recommend to the Minister of Education that the design and implementation of the Ontario Teacher Qualifying Test for graduates of accredited Faculties of Education be assigned to the accredited Faculties of Education.

8.3 Reduction of the 2005 College Membership Fee (GC20040930-145)

It was moved by Don Cattani, seconded by Hilda Watkins, and

CARRIED,

That Council postpone consideration of the following motion to the October 1, 2004 Special Meeting of Council:

That the Ontario College of Teachers fee for 2005 be reduced by a minimum of $35.00 so that the fee shall be no more than $104.00.

9. Notices of Motion

The following notices of motions were read into the Minutes for consideration at the October 1, 2004 Special Meeting of Council:

9.1 Bylaw Amendment — Section 21 - Annual Membership Fees (GC20040930-147)

Moved by Pat Daly, Chair, Finance Committee

That section 21.04 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by substitution so that the section would read:

21.04 The annual fee shall be:

(a) $104 for 2005

(b) $104 for subsequent years or as may be amended from time to time, by the amendment of these bylaws.

This amendment shall not go into effect until the 2005 application year.

9.2 Bylaw Amendment — Section 22 - Application and Evaluation Fees (GC20040930-147)

Moved by Pat Daly, Chair, Finance Committee

That section 22.01 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by substitution so that the section would read:

22.01 A person who submits an application for a certificate of registration shall pay, for the consideration by the Registrar of the application under section 18 of the Act, an application fee of $116.82.

This amendment shall not go into effect until the 2005 application year.

The following notices of motions were read into the Minutes for consideration at the December 9-10, 2004 Council Meeting:

9.3 Bylaw Amendment — Section 5 - Standing Committees (GC20040930-148)

Moved by Steering

That section 15.5 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by deleting the words “for a term of one (1) year renewable” and replacing them with the words “until the first meeting of the next Council” to read:

5.15 A person appointed to a standing committee shall be a member of the committee until the first meeting of the next Council.

9.4 Bylaw Amendment — Section 23 — Accreditation Appeal Fees (GC20040930-149)

Moved by Elizabeth Papadopoulos, Chair, Accreditation Appeal Committee

That section 23 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by addition to include the following:

23.15 Accreditation Appeal Fees

(a) A provider of a program of professional education or a program of additional qualification who submits a Notice of Appeal under subsection 41(1) of Ontario Regulation 347/02 shall pay an appeal fee in an amount:

(i) equal to the fee paid by the provider for the accreditation of that program, and

(ii) in the case of a program of professional education that was

(A) denied accreditation, or

(B) was granted accreditation with conditions, or

(C) had its accreditation revoked, and where the provider has requested a hearing, the appeal fee shall include an additional amount of $25,000 plus $1,750 GST for 2004, and for subsequent years or as may be amended from time to time by the amendment of these bylaws.

(b) Fees must be paid in full by the provider to the College at the time of application for appeal.

(c)

(i) Refunds under this subsection must be paid by the College to the provider at the time of the decision of the accreditation appeal.

(ii) In the case of an appeal of a program of professional education, the College shall refund fees to the provider where the cost of the site visit and/or panel review for the appeal was less than that required for the original accreditation.

(iii) In the event of a successful appeal the College shall refund the appeal fee charged to the provider in the following cases:

(A) where an accreditation decision to deny accreditation is appealed, and the appeal results in the granting or confirming of accreditation,

(B) where an accreditation decision to deny accreditation is appealed, and the appeal results in the granting or confirming of accreditation, with one or more conditions,

(C) where an accreditation decision to grant accreditation with one or more conditions is appealed, and the appeal results in the removal of all conditions.

9.5 Bylaw Amendment — Section 23 — Accreditation Fees for Additions to Programs of Professional Education (GC20040930-150)

Moved by Rick Victor, Chair, Accreditation Committee

That Council approve the following amendment to Section 23.11 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers by the addition of the words “and additions to programs of professional education” as follows:

23.11 That the application fee for the initial accreditation of programs of professional education and additions to programs of professional education be based on a one-time travel cost of $218.69 plus $15.31 GST per person, and a daily per diem of $210.28 plus $14.72 GST per person for the number of days needed to conduct a review, and that the application fees as set out in this bylaw be for September 2004, and for subsequent years or as may be amended from time to time by the amendment of these bylaws.

9.6 Bylaw Amendment — Section 23 — Professional Learning Program, Course and Provider Fees (GC20040930-151)

Moved by Steering

That Council approve that section 23 of the bylaws of the Ontario College of Teachers be amended by the deletion of subsections 23.09 and 23.10 and that the remaining subsections of section 23 be renumbered accordingly.

The meeting recessed at 5:10 p.m.

Session II:

Thursday, October 1, 2004

Present: Paul Brazeau, Donald Cattani, Ernie Checkeris, Janet Cornwall, Ted Coulson, Patrick Daly, Suzanne De Froy, Rosemary Fontaine, Gordon Hough, Nancy Hutcheson (Vice-Chair), Martin Kings (until 2:45 p.m.), Marilyn A. Laframboise (Chair), Anne Marie Levesque, Gail Lilley, Bill Matheson, Elayne McDermid, Karen Mitchell, Harry Mulvale, Iain Munro, Janet Ouellette, Elizabeth Papadopoulos, Jennifer Pitt, Patrick Slack, Rick Victor, Anne Vinet-Roy, Hilda Watkins, Don Watson (until 3:30 p.m.), Lila Mae (Lou) Watson, W. Douglas Wilson (Registrar)

Regrets: Normand Fortin

Presiding Officers: George Merrett, Douglas McCarthy

Guests: L. Thomas Forbes (McCarthy Tétrault), Tamara Gottlieb (COMPAS)

Staff: Margaret Aubé, Kim Bauer, Rosemary Gannon, Myrtle Herzenberg, Richard Lewko, Jacquie Lord, Brian McGowan, Charlie Morrison, Lynda Palazzi, Katherin Platt

The meeting resumed at 9:05 a.m.

Douglas McCarthy assumed the position of Presiding Officer.

The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, on behalf of Council, thanked former members of Council for attending the reception the previous evening.

The Presiding Officer clarified the way in which motions could be amended.

10. Business Arising

10.1 Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance

(GC20040930-113, -114, -115, -116, -117, -163, -164, -165) — Timed Item: Friday, October 1, 2004 - 9:05 a.m.

The following documents were provided as a result of Council members’ request during the COMPAS presentation (see page 2):

• 2004 Annual State of the Teaching Profession Survey — Teacher Component - A COMPAS Interview Schedule for the Ontario College of Teachers (GC20040930-163)
• Ontario College of Teachers — Members Survey — Comparison Groups (GC20040930-164)
• Eligible Voters per Electoral Categories (GC20040930-165)

The Chair, Marilyn Laframboise, provided an overview of the process the Ad Hoc Committee had followed and the scope of the consultations.

The Chair of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance, Nancy Hutcheson, spoke to the report. A lengthy question and answer session followed.

George Merrett assumed the position of Presiding Officer.

It was moved by Nancy Hutcheson, Chair, Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance, “That Council direct the Registrar to forward the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance (GC20040930-113) to the Minister of Education in response to the Minister’s discussion paper “Revitalizing the Ontario College of Teachers” with the deletion of the recommendation on page 5 of the report.”

It was moved by Rosemary Fontaine and seconded by Gord Hough, “That the motion and report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be referred to the Executive Committee to develop a paper for Council’s consideration that includes the following principles:

1. That regional and system positions be maintained;
2. That the total number of regional and system positions be at least 60% of the total Council.

and report back to the December 9-10, 2004 meeting of Council.

It was moved by Janet Ouellette, seconded by Patrick Daly, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the motion to refer, and it was

LOST,

That the motion and report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be referred to the Executive Committee to develop a paper for Council’s consideration that includes the following principles:

• That regional and system positions be maintained;
• That the total number of regional and system positions be at least 60% of the total Council.

and report back to the December 9-10, 2004 meeting of Council.

Rosemary Fontaine requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Ernie Checkeris
Don Cattani	Janet Cornwall
Ted Coulson	Patrick Daly
Suzanne De Froy	Nancy Hutcheson
Rosemary Fontaine	Martin Kings
Gordon Hough	Marilyn Laframboise
Harry Mulvale	Anne Marie Levesque
Elizabeth Papadopoulos	Gail Lilley
Hilda Watkins	Bill Matheson
	Elayne McDermid
	Karen Mitchell
	Iain Munro
	Janet Ouellette
	Jennifer Pitt
	Patrick Slack
	Rick Victor
	Anne Vinet-Roy
	Don Watson
	Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 9	Against: 19	Absent: 1

It was moved by Elizabeth Papadopoulos and seconded by Hilda Watkins, “That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be amended by the deletion of sections 2 through 7 and Appendix 2.”

It was moved by Karen Mitchell, seconded by Patrick Daly, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the amendment motion, and it was

LOST,

That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be amended by the deletion of sections 2 through 7 and Appendix 2.

Harry Mulvale requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Don Cattani
Ted Coulson	Ernie Checkeris
Rosemary Fontaine	Janet Cornwall
Gordon Hough	Patrick Daly
Harry Mulvale	Suzanne De Froy
Elizabeth Papadopoulos	Nancy Hutcheson
Hilda Watkins	Martin Kings
	Marilyn Laframboise
	Anne Marie Levesque
	Gail Lilley
	Bill Matheson
	Elayne McDermid
	Karen Mitchell
	Iain Munro
	Janet Ouellette
	Jennifer Pitt
	Patrick Slack
	Rick Victor
	Anne Vinet-Roy
	Don Watson
	Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 7	Against: 21	Absent: 1

It was moved by Jennifer Pitt and seconded by Iain Munro, ‘That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be amended by the addition of one elected member to the Regional Positions for a total of ten recommended Regional Positions so that the recommendation on page two reads: “The Committee recommends a Council of 33 members — 23 elected and 10 government appointees as outlined in the following chart.”’

It was moved by Janet Ouellette, seconded by Bill Matheson, but it was

LOST,

That the question be put.

Further debate ensued.

It was moved by Don Cattani, seconded by Patrick Daly, but it was

LOST,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the amendment motion, and it was

CARRIED,

That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance be amended by the addition of one elected member to the Regional Positions for a total of ten recommended Regional Positions so that the recommendation on page two reads: “The Committee recommends a Council of 33 members — 23 elected and 10 government appointees as outlined in the following chart.”

Harry Mulvale requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Janet Cornwall
Don Cattani	Patrick Daly
Ernie Checkeris	Martin Kings
Ted Coulson	Marilyn Laframboise
Suzanne De Froy	Anne Marie Levesque
Rosemary Fontaine	Karen Mitchell
Gordon Hough	Janet Ouellette
Nancy Hutcheson	Patrick Slack
Gail Lilley	Rick Victor
Bill Matheson	Don Watson
Elayne McDermid	Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
Harry Mulvale
Iain Munro
Elizabeth Papadopoulos
Jennifer Pitt
Anne Vinet-Roy
Hilda Watkins
For: 17	Against: 11	Absent: 1

It was moved by Hilda Watkins and seconded by Rosemary Fontaine, “That the words “provincial presidents” be substituted for the words “provincially elected leaders” in the recommendation on page 6.”

It was agreed as a friendly amendment that the words “the provincially elected leader” replace the words “provincial presidents”.

It was agreed to add “That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee be amended by having ” at the beginning of the motion, as a friendly amendment.

A vote was taken on the amendment motion, as amended, and it was

CARRIED,

That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee be amended by having the words “the provincially elected leader” be substituted for the words “provincially elected leaders” in the recommendation on page 6.

Douglas McCarthy assumed the position of Presiding Officer.

It was moved by Harry Mulvale, seconded by Hilda Watkins, but it was

LOST,

That the section on “Voting Process” (page 5 of the Ad Hoc Committee Report) be amended to include the following recommendation:

The Council recommend that each member of the Ontario College of Teachers be eligible to vote for one regional position, all system positions and each of the positions designated for Principal/Vice Principals, Supervisory Officer, Faculty of Education and Private School.

It was moved by Steering, and

CARRIED,

That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee be amended by the deletion of the recommendation on page 5 of the report.

It was moved by Jennifer Pitt and seconded by Don Cattani, “That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee be amended by the provision for private school principals/vice-principals to run in the Principal/Vice-Principal category and the designation of the private school position as a non-administrative position.”

It was moved by Janet Ouellette, seconded by Patrick Daly, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the amendment motion, but it was

LOST,

That the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee be amended by the provision for private school principals/vice-principals to run in the Principal/Vice-Principal category and the designation of the private school position as a non-administrative position.

A debate ensued on the main motion as amended.

It was moved by Ted Coulson, seconded by Suzanne De Froy, and

CARRIED,

That the question be put.

A vote was taken on the main motion, as amended, and it was

CARRIED,

That Council direct the Registrar to forward the Report of the Ad Hoc Committee on College Governance (GC20040930-113) as amended to the Minister of Education in response to the Minister’s discussion paper “Revitalizing the Ontario College of Teachers”.

Suzanne De Froy requested a recorded vote.

Recorded Vote:

For	Against
Paul Brazeau	Patrick Daly
Don Cattani	Gordon Hough
Ernie Checkeris	Harry Mulvale
Janet Cornwall	Janet Ouellette
Ted Coulson	Elizabeth Papadopoulos
Suzanne De Froy	Rick Victor
Rosemary Fontaine	Hilda Watkins
Nancy Hutcheson
Anne Marie Levesque
Gail Lilley
Bill Matheson
Elayne McDermid
Karen Mitchell
Iain Munro
Jennifer Pitt
Patrick Slack
Anne Vinet-Roy
Lila Mae (Lou) Watson
For: 18	Against: 7	Absent: 3	Abstain: 1

11. Next Regular Meeting

• December 9-10, 2004

12. Adjournment

The meeting adjourned at 3:55 p.m.

Signed: Chair, Marilyn Laframboise		Signed: Registrar, W. Douglas Wilson
Dated:		Dated: